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'Freezing' Pool Water Tested

In response to residents’ complains, reflected in the very active discussion on theLoop about the temperature of the water at the Hommocks pool, 







administered in the summer by the Town of Mamaroneck, representatives from the Town met school officials on Monday to test the water for themselves.

The readings in the indoor swimming pool at Hommocks Middle School?  "We dropped thermometers into various spots, and it was 82 yesterday," Superintendent of Recreation Jill Fisher said on Tuesday. "I don’t think 82 is an unreasonable number."

Fisher said different types of thermometers were used and the temperatures were read at various depths.

Fisher said she, along with Town Administrator Stephen Altieri, were satisfied with the temperature but would continue to monitor it. Some lap swimmers, she said, even think it’s too warm.

Loop readers, from their comments, disagree, some very strongly, with the Town’s findings.

"The Town always tries to keep everyone happy, but unfortunately in this case it’s tough," Fisher said. "We are trying to find a balance for everybody."



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July 27, 2010 3:36 PM

Are you people seriously still talking about this? Me thinks you need something better to do with your spare time…

Kay Blossom
Kay Blossom
July 27, 2010 11:51 AM

Ah Syrec, you should likewise move on if you are mistaking that for a rant.

July 26, 2010 10:48 AM

Quite frankly, the comments in this rant are not a demonstration of the wisdom of some residents of the area either. It would appear that if there are more worthy causes to be addressed, then residents should be spending their time devoted to them, rather than flogging a dead horse. The indoor pool should have been, and now is, heated to a comfortable temperature for kids and lap swimmers alike. Move on.

Kay Blossom
Kay Blossom
July 26, 2010 10:06 AM

Dear Syrec, this petition is not a demonstration of the wisdom of crowds, it is an example of the opposite (and since they have invested a fee above and beyond, that only makes it more incumbent upon them to do the research they obviously did not do). This campaign is, as I have described using my actual swimming teaching/lifeguarding experience, a misguided use of well-intentioned energy. Has anyone noticed that every poster on this thread who has more than passing experience with swimming finds the petition without merit or actually negative?

JWOW has demonstrated for her children the principle of spending a great deal of energy for a campaign that, if more research had been done and more swimmers consulted, would not have happened. I applaud her energy and initiative. For all of the worthy causes local, area and global, I hope that her next cause will be more worthy. I have my own list of worthy causes for which I really wish I could do more if I could find the time (to research them as well to ensure their merit). For those who do have the time, I salute them – and if any reader has the time, I have a prelim suggestion for a campaign involving pedestrian safety in Larchmont, an actual life and death issue.

Oh, and the class stereotypes/descriptions being slung about – JWOW, you cannot possibly be surprised that class/income/consumption is considered connected, ancillary but connected, to a campaign to raise the temperature of a swimming pool. You see it as getting return on your (fee) investment and taxes, but seen from a larger angle, pursuing an issue like this can only be done by those who have blown far past the first level of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. You are indeed in a privileged position to complain, however justified you feel. It is hardly shocking that others would comment on this aspect as it is ripe for satire.

July 25, 2010 10:54 AM

Okay, so JWow takes appropriate steps by first asking the pool staff (wearing wetsuits!) to raise the temperature of the pool, and finds herself having to deal with the Superintendent. Miraculously, before the Superintendent shows up, the pool temperature jumps from 70 to 82, inviting complaints from lap swimmers and frugal tax payers. I don’t think JWow was expecting it to be heated to 82 degrees, but simply warm enough for her children (and the children of 80 other parents in agreement) just learning to swim and therefore not yet moving quickly enough to generate body heat.

And don’t most communities these days stress the need for more kids to take swimming lessons for fitness and safety? Well, let’s turn them on at an earlier age (the range of most drownings) by making it a more pleasant experience for them to learn in, and the instructors could lose their wetsuits too.

Take note also, that the 80 parents who signed JWow’s petition, each paid $475, representing income for the City of $38,000, on top of the money for swimming lessons as well.

There’s a quote by, I think, Mark Canfield that goes something like, “You may not get what you ask for, but you’ll never get what you don’t ask for.” Kudos to JWow, for demonstrating this simple principle to her kids.

July 26, 2010 2:26 PM

I stopped going to the pool since they covered it. Very unappetizing.

July 24, 2010 8:33 PM

Dear JWow,
I am pointing out lack of balance. People came to your defense b/c Wil-E called you crazy, but nobody seems to care that you have more than returned the favor and that your cohorts are inviting Wil-E to move out – based on statements he/she did not make, to boot.

For the record, yes, I do belong to the pool and swim a fair amount … like the temp a little cooler than it’s been lately as that’s better for lap swimming, but I can deal with normal fluctuations, trust me. If you consider the topic of how we raise our children to be “off-topic” you can simply ignore the posts. Instead, you want to dismiss them because you can’t refute the raised points. You don’t agree, so I need to stop … makes sense.

Finally, stop congratulating yourself on the temp change. I suspect that the pool temp was cold for a couple of days b/c the staff put in a lot of fresh water all at once – something they do when somebody vomits in the pool … or worse. The laws of nature take a couple of days to equilibrate water and air temps, without the need for your “intervention”.

July 24, 2010 2:33 PM

Dear “swimlikearock”
Why is it ok to call someone crazy but not ok to call someone weird. 2 posts ago you said that we should all get thicker skin but now you are upset. make up your mind. I still think all this garbage is way off topic. do either you or “wil-e” even belong to the pool? maybe you have too much time on your hands…getting involved in a subject that doesn’t effect you at all.
the pool has been warmed up and my kids are learning to swim.
thank you to the loop for running this story! shout out to ronnie, pauly d and snooki

Kay Blossom
Kay Blossom
July 24, 2010 1:51 PM

Okay, now I have the time to approach this subject more seriously. JWOW, I completely support you in your goal to have your children learn to swim. As a former swimming teacher, with lifeguard and WSI qualifications (admittedly now lapsed), I think it is extremely important that they learn how to swim. And they should learn how to get warmed up in slightly cooler water while learning the lesson that when life throws you in the water unexpectedly, the water is not going to be a balmy 80-2 degrees (that’s partly my teacher side, but mostly my lifeguard side).

Out of the five summers I spent teaching swimming, one was at a private summer camp on Philadelphia’s Main Line (the children of which the sheltered, pampered children of Westchester County have nothing). It took the usual cajoling to get them in the water that was sub-80 and get them warmed up – children say, six to puberty, usually have a lower body fat ratio (I said usually, that probably is outdated today) and need to be vigorously active in the water to warm up and acclimate. They would, like children everywhere, prevaricate a little and complain, and I would look at them and say, “Get in. You will be all right.” And behold! Muffy got in and was all right! I agree with Cathy; the kids are fine. In retrospect, I did not have Muffy and Chip’s parents fretting on the sidelines of the cold pool while their children got on with it and learned how to swim (and also that “cold” pool water is part of life). I didn’t realize how good I had it!

Based on my experience as described, I find the campaign by parents to raise the temperature of the Hommocks Pool to be cr…..wait, can’t use that word, if Westchester children are sensitive, their parents are even more so… ill-considered. Indeed, as several posters mentioned, it is a midjudged use of time by those who have access to more of it than most. I’m in danger of exhausting my polite euphemisms. It’s all silly. Let’s just get back to summer and let the kids learn to swim.

The Situation
The Situation
July 24, 2010 1:22 PM

Ifswimlikearock read will-e’s comments you would see he does complain about the “doubleparked Audi”s and being hit with LV bags on the train.” i am not telling anyone to move -merely suggesting that if he/she doesn’t like the type of area this is then there is an alternative. As for people having too much time on their hands, I work full time, have two children, one with special needs and drive a hybrid non-luxurious car. And DESPITE having no free time i can still appreciate a mother who notices that the swim teachers are wearing wet suits in the summer. Seeing if you can get the pool temp raised is hardly the same as not getting your kid the car he wants when he gets a license. Swimlike…is the one who should show some tolerance for other peoples views before he/she jumps to unfounded conclusions

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